Olivia Rodrigo’s ‘Sour’ Breakthrough

For the previous few years, there’s been one thing of a pop star vacuum — or no less than, a pop-music star vacuum. By and enormous, performers making centrist, big-tent pop music have been relegated to the sidelines as hip-hop — and different genres borrowing closely from it — took heart stage.

But Olivia Rodrigo, a Disney baby star wielding a nasty breakup and a tart voice, has made pop primal, and first, once more. “Sour,” her first album, simply debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard album chart with the largest gross sales week of the yr.

On this week’s Popcast, a dialog about Rodrigo’s meteoric yr up to now, the lengthy arc of the mainstreaming of emo and the quickening of the maturing of Disney idols.


Olivia Horn, who writes about music for Pitchfork, The New York Times and others

Lindsay Zoladz, who writes about music for The New York Times and others