Opinion | Wilco’s Jeff Tweedy Wants You to Be Bad at Something. It’s for Your Own Good.

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Recently, I picked up Jeff Tweedy’s “How to Write One Song.” It was a little bit of a lark. Tweedy is the frontman for Wilco, one among my favourite bands, however I’m not a songwriter, and I don’t plan to turn into one. But, unexpectedly, I beloved the ebook. It’s essentially the most beneficiant and approachable information to the artistic course of I’ve learn.

It’s additionally relentlessly sensible: To Tweedy, this actually is a course of, replete with practices you could take pleasure in doing every day. As a author of a really completely different type, I’ve had a blast with them.

So I requested Tweedy to come on the present to speak about creativity, and his strategy to it. He debunks the concept struggling is important (and even helpful) for the artistic course of, talks by way of his relentless search for inspiration, sings and analyzes a couple of of my favourite songs, analyzes his relationship along with his mom, shares a few of his methods for discovering recent language for previous concepts and even convinces me to write some poetry.

This is a enjoyable one.

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(A full transcript of the episode is offered right here.)

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