Opinion | This Conversation Will Change How You Think About Trauma

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“Trauma is much more than a story about something that happened long ago,” writes Dr. Bessel van der Kolk. “The emotions and physical sensations that were imprinted during the trauma are experienced not as memories but as disruptive physical reactions in the present.”

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Van der Kolk, a psychiatrist by coaching, has been a pioneer in trauma analysis for many years now and leads the Trauma Research Foundation. His 2014 ebook “The Body Keeps the Score,” shortly turned a touchstone on the subject. And though the ebook was first launched seven years in the past, it now sits at No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller record, a testomony to the state of our nationwide psyche.

The core argument of the ebook is that traumatic experiences — every part from sexual assault and incest to emotional and bodily abuse — develop into embedded within the older, extra primal elements of our mind that don’t have entry to aware consciousness. And which means two issues concurrently. First, that trauma lodges within the physique. We carry a bodily imprint of our psychic wounds. The physique retains the rating. But — and I discovered this extra revelatory — the thoughts hides the rating. It obscures the recollections, or convinces us our victimization was our fault, or covers the occasion in disgrace so we don’t talk about it.

There’s lots on this dialog. We talk about the lived expertise of trauma, the connection between the thoughts and the physique, the variations between our “experiencing” and “autobiographical” selves, why van der Kolk believes human language is each a “miracle” and a “tyranny,” unconventional remedies for trauma from E.M.D.R. and yoga to psychedelics and theater, how societies can handle collective trauma like 9/11 and Covid-19, the shortcomings of America’s “post-alcoholic” strategy to coping with psychic struggling, how you can navigate the customarily complicated relationships with the traumatized individuals we all know and love, and way more.

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(A full transcript of the episode shall be accessible noon on the Times web site.)

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