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As the world displays on the anniversary of Sept. 11, what does the day of the assaults — and the 20 years of conflict it precipitated — really feel wish to America’s veterans? With the Afghanistan withdrawal all of a sudden reclaiming consideration for the “forever” wars, is the 9/11 period lastly over, on the house entrance and in America’s overseas coverage? Jane Coaston brings collectively Kenneth Harbaugh and Michael Washington, two mates and veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom, to debate the pax Americana, the 9/11 roots of right this moment’s divide within the veteran group and the political weaponization of service members’ patriotism. Harbaugh is a former Navy pilot turned veterans’ advocate and podcaster. Washington is a former Marine and firefighter who right this moment works as a licensed therapist for veterans and emergency employees.
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Resources talked about on this episode:
Ken Harbaugh’s podcasts, “Burn the Boats” and “Warriors in Their Own Words.”
Call, textual content or chat on-line with the Veterans Crisis Hotline.
Team Rubicon, a nonprofit that makes use of the talents and experiences of army veterans to quickly deploy emergency response groups to catastrophe zones.
Find a Veterans Affairs location and discover different out there advantages and providers.
If you or somebody you recognize could also be contemplating suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 or the Crisis Text Line by texting HOME to 741-741. You can even go to speakingofsuicide.com/sources.
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