Opinion | Tyler Cowen on the Great Stagnation’s End

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Tyler Cowen is an economist at George Mason University, the co-founder of the weblog Marginal Revolution, and host of the podcast “Conversations With Tyler.” But greater than that, he’s a real polymath who reads about all the pieces, goes all over the place and talks to everybody. I’ve recognized him for years, and whereas I disagree with him on fairly a bit, there are few individuals I be taught extra from in a single dialog.

In this dialog, I wished to get at the connective thread in Cowen’s work: the ethical crucial of financial progress. Growth doesn’t have the greatest repute in left-wing circles nowadays, and infrequently for good cause. It’s onerous to have a look at a world the place rising G.D.P. has pushed rising temperatures and surprising inequality, after which to proceed venerating progress as an all-encompassing good.

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Cowen admits these criticisms — significantly the local weather one — however nonetheless argues that progress, correctly measured, is central to an ethical economic system. The East Asian financial miracles are, he’s written, “the highest manifestation of the ethical good in human history to date.” Time, he argues, is a “moral illusion,” and the most vital factor we are able to do for the future is ready the energy of compounding progress to work now. We do this by producing new concepts, new applied sciences, new methods of residing and cooperating. And that, in flip, requires us to seek out and nurture human expertise, which is the place his latest work has centered.

So we start this dialog by discussing the case for and towards financial progress, however we additionally get into plenty of different issues: why Cowen thinks the nice stagnation in know-how is coming to an finish; the way forward for applied sciences like A.I., crypto, fourth-generation nuclear and the Chinese system of presidency; the issues in how we fund scientific analysis; what the proper has achieved to make authorities each ineffective and bigger; why Cowen is skeptical of common pre-Ok (and why I’m not); whether or not I overestimate the risks of polarization; the methods wherein we’re getting weirder; the long-term way forward for human civilization; why studying is overrated and journey is underrated; the right way to admire classical music and way more.

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(A full transcript of the episode will likely be out there noon on the Times web site.)

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